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I never ask for it but this time I will. Please fave this journal so the more people see it, the more know how breaks are important! (By breaks optimologhists mean to look at something that is really far away, like behing the window) Or else you will meet a needle very close to your eye


In the previous journal I wrote my health needs hospitalization. At first as usual I decided not to share the details. But since it's about graphic and one ohter thing, I decided to do so. I know your life, life of 21th century person is fast, so you might not find time to read this journal though there is some warning for you if you're graphics or if you're a person who, like me, is living fast. 

 I went to hospital with (that's really humiliating to open like this) double vision problem. I ended up on neurology with Myasthenia and Multiple sclerosis suspicion, a disease where you may loose your vision and general nerve capability and you obviously die in the end. I've been through a lot of painful tests like placing niddles inside eye muscles and drilling them to check if they work properly. After a week The final diagnosis was that I suffer with acomodation spasm. I use the largest cintiq and I had overcorrected glasses. Lately I bought a horse to be honest and had to speed up with commissions to pay for my new guy. I ended up working for over 12 hours daily with record of 18h /day. Now. The acomodation spasm may meet you when you work with close distance for a long time without breaks. Guys. I really never cared for breaks and stuff. BUt that caused me a lot of problems.

CINTIQ MAKES YOU TO LOOK AT THE LIGHT SCREEN FROM CLOSER DISTANCE THAT IN CASE OF REGULAR SCREENS (so the eye muscles are pernamently tensed)

The spasm really phicically hurts. Acomodation problem is something you don't feel. For a month, two. But then your eyebrow, eyelid suddenly falls down, whole face is in pain, eyeballs not to mention. And I honestly don't say that to receive compassion, absolutely. The problem Is really rare. Cintiq's are rare. Precise, lineart work for hours is rare so medicine don't know that, that's why I write about it. I obviously overworked myself lately but still, headaches on your forehead, temples, EYEBROWS, eyelids, terrible vision tireness, blurry vision and finally double vision may be caused by computer work. Things that we usually ignore. I've been through tests and ideas, that I might be a victim of the worst neurological diseas just because of computer syndrom that we all ignore. It would also be better if I didn't draw for over 8h a day. 

Nobody made tests on cintiqs yet because it's still a uncommon, expensive device. It's not a bad thing that will ruin you but possesing it, means understanding the matter of breaks.

I got ban for drawing and using cintiq for next week until the spasm will let me go. After that I will be slowly comming back to work so I could actually affort a regular tablet to work on it in turns. 



As a conclusion it's not only cintiq to blame. CINTIQ,  WRONG EYE CORRECTION (Even small), OVERWORK (over 8h a day, 7 d a week won't give possibility for eyes to rest and regenerate) and finally DRAWING AT NIGHTS when your eye is not adapted to work

Comming back soon to you 

P. 

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Comments: 70

TriLason [2017-05-24 01:42:16 +0000 UTC]

I hope you feel better

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doolhoofd [2017-05-23 15:49:33 +0000 UTC]

Hyper-visibility and its consequences.

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chou8979 [2017-05-20 16:43:05 +0000 UTC]

In primis, thanks a lot for sharing this with all of us!!!I can only imagine how difficult for you is to live like and how difficult is to speak about it.
Best wishes for your health and healing <3
P.s.I would like to share this on my facebook profile if for you there is no problem .. 

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JadeGreenImmortality [2017-05-19 15:30:08 +0000 UTC]

THank you so much for this warning, this is a really important thing to consider. I hope you are feeling better already <3

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AnathelaRen [2017-05-18 20:29:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for this, it's so pertinent. I actually didn't realise how much time I spent just staring at the screen till I read your post. I'll be sure to be careful from now on. I really hope you recover fully and quickly.

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nightcreation [2017-05-17 13:24:55 +0000 UTC]

I have readed all your words (I translated them). Even if I'm not a graphitic ... but a simple Artis! It's humanism that drives me to take the time to read translate; Understand traduce and reply to you .... I hope you put yourself upright .... and you pull a good lesson from your pain ...... because life consists of two thing pain and Pleasure .... pleasure is a motive ..... pain is a hard lesson .... it is necessary to struggle to find time to detach itself from everything .... and works to have real wealth .. ..which means to be free .(don't pray for an easy life ...but pray for the strength to endure a hard one )Bruce Lee....take care of you

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Ka-Rei [2017-05-15 07:04:41 +0000 UTC]

Breaks are always mentioned to be needed when working with computers, but it's so easy to forget to make one. I know it from myself

My eye-doctor compared the eye muscles to leg muscles to give an example to me about what is going on in the eye when looking for long at something at short distance (like computer monitor).
He said that looking at the monitor is for the eyes like for the legs is being in a squat position.
Looking 8 hours a day at a monitor without a break is like being in squat 8 hours a day without a break.
You can probably imagine how your leg muscles would be stiff and how they'll hurt when you'll try to stand up after 8 hours in squat if you won't be giving them breaks
The eye muscles are becomming stiff in the same way, and after 8 hours a day without break they have problem to reach their other positions (like changing focus into something in a distance), just like the legs will do. Eventually they'll reach it but with a lot of pain.
The difference is that the eye muscle is much smaller and so it doesn't pain as the larger muscles does. That's why a care for our eye muscles is so underestimated and why we often forget that we should do something for them. They simply don't hurt us until it's quite serious. 

I did learn some exercises for the eyes at our university PE.

When you already take a break, the best brake is to look outside of window. There are many distant objects, so your eye muscles can stretch properly. Look at the house across the street, or a forest or mountains in distance, whatever. Look in the distance for several minutes. So the eyes can stretch.

Another exercise for the eyes is changing focus distance. You look out from the window on the house over the street for several seconds, then you look on your car in front of your house (again for several seconds), then you look on your bed/table/wardrobe, etc. And repeat for a minute or two. The point is that you're looking at objects that have different distances. This trains the eye to be flexible.

And a third I can remember, is to give the eyes a rest in dark black. Rub your hands to warm them up, so they'll feel comfortable for your eyes. Then cover your eyes with your palms. But don't press on the eyes, the eyes should be relaxed. Just use the palms to block the light comming to your eyes, so all you can see is dark black. Try to open your eyes under your palms to check if there isn't a gap by which a light is comming and try to close any gap. Relax your eyes for a while in this darkness.

I wish you to get better with your eyes soon
And keep taking proper breaks

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Ryhalla [2017-05-14 18:16:59 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for sharing this info! I definitely need to work on taking more breaks. 

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Elishjair [2017-05-13 22:29:09 +0000 UTC]

Fortunately, it's not the worst-case.
I hope you get well soon!

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drajkin [2017-05-13 21:04:41 +0000 UTC]

yeah, you overworked yourself. When I did something similar I had dry eyes and couldn't see very well. I wear glasses for shortsigtness. What can you do? Breaks - every hour or so. Better food - forger standard american diet. And movement outside - go running to relax your muscles and mind. This way you can handle 10h behind screen (well, not Cintiq) without degradation. Or try to lower brightness of your Cintiq. I do it all the time on my monitor - high brightness during day, low brightness at night. Take care of yourself Btw. I envy you a horse

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Imnoobbutwithheart [2017-05-13 19:16:39 +0000 UTC]

Praying you get well soon Precia. I do not use Cintique and I do not draw digitally anyway so I do not know how it's for you... But here's hoping for your speedy recovery. Your art is an inspiration to me.

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IsTheArtist1298 [2017-05-13 17:02:24 +0000 UTC]

Hope that you recover soon, Precia.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 [2017-05-13 14:55:01 +0000 UTC]

This is why I use Wacom Bamboo.

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TonyToriusImages [2017-05-13 12:41:51 +0000 UTC]

I wish you the best for your recovery and to get better as new.

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TinyTeaDrinker [2017-05-13 11:24:43 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god...

I've been going to the opticians and the hospital due to the horrible pain in my eyes

my eyes, eyebrows and behind my eyes have been in agony that no amount of painkillers took away the pain

they tried giving my glasses to wear while I work and then haven't helped me since

but, I'm the worst person for giving myself breaks!!

I'll not eat or drink through day because I'm that in the zone that everything just passes me by

and then it's like 1 in a morning and I'm shocked, no food, drink or break in general 

I really need to pull my socks up and do something about it

I just panic I'm not going to get all my work done in time if I have all these breaks, but my health comes first!

I'm really sorry about your health and hope you get better or at least feel comfortable with no pain, best of luck!!

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uxv [2017-05-13 10:34:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the warning. Hope you'll get better ASAP.

Also, that's "ophthalmologists".

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janvill [2017-05-13 08:32:35 +0000 UTC]

get well soon! this is a good reminder to everyone to take a break once in a while. something I should learn to do myself.

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Troy3308 [2017-05-13 08:26:38 +0000 UTC]

Rose: Vanilla? You're an Alicorn?

Vanilla: Yep!

Rose: o_O? Alicorn of what?

Vanilla: Um....

Rose: *Pulls away her Alicorn wings, revealing that she wasn't an Alicorn after all and gasps* LIKE. THIS. CAN?!!

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The-Shrimp In reply to Troy3308 [2017-05-15 21:18:35 +0000 UTC]

^^what exactly does that have to do with this journal.

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Troy3308 In reply to The-Shrimp [2017-05-15 22:20:44 +0000 UTC]

Nothing, just some comedy.

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ssjdah [2017-05-13 05:26:29 +0000 UTC]

Best Wishes and Get well soon
Stay Strong
My Mother also has Multiple sclerosis , so I know your feeling

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treespeakart [2017-05-13 03:24:03 +0000 UTC]

This is a good reminder for me to be careful, especially since I've had painful work done on my eyes already. Hope you get better soon!

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Mahasu [2017-05-13 02:59:51 +0000 UTC]

Take care of yourself!

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Schizoid137 [2017-05-13 01:33:50 +0000 UTC]

I hope you feel better soon.  Take care  

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liunors [2017-05-13 00:20:56 +0000 UTC]

thank you very much for your warning. I hope you get well soon.  your art is really amazing. now I don't feel too bad for losing my cintiq XD

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stantheeanimator [2017-05-12 21:36:53 +0000 UTC]

damn...hope you get well soon 🙏🙏

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Nielij [2017-05-12 20:55:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the waring

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Hestia-Edwards [2017-05-12 16:52:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for sharing this, that's really scary.  I try to limit my computer time to two hours at a chunk at most, but now I'll look for other ways to limit my screen time. 

Something I've been looking into is Digital Minimalism (calnewport.com/blog/2016/12/18… )

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Kizouriin [2017-05-12 16:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Be well precia! I truely hope you will feel well! ^o^

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Ethelbutt [2017-05-12 16:13:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god, I already have a diagnosed neurological condition but I was hospitalized about a year ago (same thing, double visions, eye pain, I also lost a lot of motor control) The doctors were pretty sure I had multiple sclerosis too but ruled it out and could never figure out what was wrong. These symptoms still come up, sometimes I cant look at anything without getting ill and I have to wear sunglasses inside just to ease things a little bit to function. I work on digital art up to 13-14 hours a day usually 5 days a week (usually not even breaking to eat away from my computer, I realize this is a problem)...I'm thinking i should probably bring this up with my doctor now. 

Thank you for posting this I've never even heard of it.

I really hope things get better for you, I know how scary neurological diseases can be.

I'm going to do my best to take breaks Dx

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Precia-T In reply to Ethelbutt [2017-05-12 19:26:22 +0000 UTC]

If the pain is around eyebrows and inside the eyeball, plus if you feel in dark room like you were looking at the middle of the sun and you work for 13-14h/day - that is quite possible you do too have acomodation spasm. For motor control, I don;t know. It may cause the whole face and neck muscle tence, but if it's optical problem, it shouldn't have anything to do with your motor abilities. : /

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AliceSacco [2017-05-12 15:36:20 +0000 UTC]

You only have accomodation spasm, luckily. I've heard about MS. One of my former classmates has it and now he is on wheelchair.

Because I work on computer, I got undercorrected glasses (anyway, i can't fully recover my vision after I reached minus four and after I got astigmatism), and I have a supplementary pair of glasses that are even weaker than those I use everyday. At least this prevent accommodation spasms.

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Ashtonmcvae [2017-05-12 15:33:07 +0000 UTC]

I am so sorry to hear that. Please be careful in your recovery. Hopeing for better health for you.

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Moth-Deity [2017-05-12 12:42:02 +0000 UTC]

Favourited, I hope you feel better soon <3

I have a condition where I need to pace myself too (not with eyes though) and its super hard at first cause you're used to just speeding through things, but do please remember to take breaks!

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simonhawk454 [2017-05-12 12:39:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for sharing this.  I work 40+ hours in front of dual monitors as a 3D machine designer. Screens are very hard on the eyes for that many hours. I now have permanent vision problems and have to wear corrective lens full time because of it. Absolutely take lots of break from art or design if you are on a screen or working close to your paper!  Thanks for sharing your story, best of luck to you and get well soon. 

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StriderSyd [2017-05-12 12:35:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanx for the warning.
I have a Cintiq myself, but I've never worked 12 hours straight on it.
The longest time I've ever spent on it (I believe) was about 5 hours.
But I'll be more more wary of my usage time from now on.

Hope you feel better and heal up soon.
And again, thanx for the heads up.

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Precia-T In reply to StriderSyd [2017-05-12 20:16:36 +0000 UTC]

be careful. I also had overcorrected glasses so it surely made thing worse. But cintiqs demand you to place your eyes very close to the screen. 

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StriderSyd In reply to Precia-T [2017-05-13 23:41:44 +0000 UTC]

I wear glasses too......dunno if mine are categorized as being "overcorrected".
One thing I've been doing for a few years now to alleviate eyestrain on a Cintiq,
is to not work in darkness and have multiple lights on whenever it's in use.
Drawing in a well lit room is always good for the eyes I suppose.

Although I had never used my Cintiq in total darkness,
for a while, I still usually kept only minimal additional light around when drawing on it.
I noticed a definite ease of eyestrain and work improvement when I started using additional lights.
For me, I always have some lights positioned off to my right and left.
And keep them on at all times when it's on.
(a light directly behind me and/or in front of the Cintiq causes an annoying glare on it's screen)

I've not gotten to to point of physical pain or where eye spasms occur,
but I'll definitely bring up the subject on my next optometrist visit.
Once again....thanx for the warning.
I hope you heal up and feel better soon.

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SoftyHeart001 [2017-05-12 11:06:47 +0000 UTC]

Hope you get better hun! <3

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chris-the-sword [2017-05-12 09:58:42 +0000 UTC]

hello, get well soon!

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Kiborg-Graph [2017-05-12 07:53:47 +0000 UTC]

I think it applies to also sitting at the computer and writing stuff for a long time. I was recently typing away my Bachelor's thesis every day for a month, and I started experiencing the ocular migraines: www.allaboutvision.com/conditi… Hopefully now I'll be able to get at least some rest from the long hours of computer work. Hopefully paper & pencil drawing does not have such a strain to one's eyes like you described.

Anyways, I hope you feel better now, but take care - vision is a precious bodily sense.

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Iduna-Haya [2017-05-12 07:53:18 +0000 UTC]

Take care

p.s. I've requested the journal in several groups to ensure more people see it

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Kittyillustrations [2017-05-12 07:06:06 +0000 UTC]

thats very scary  must admit im guilty of not taking breaks and resting my eyes and i tend to get a lot of headaches that turn into migraines because of it, but i do blame myself for not taking break and i am ment to wear glasses when i work with my tablet but i dont because i cant see the difference. 
i really need to start wearing them and making sure i have my breaks
i use a wacom cintiq companion 2

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RyuKoOu [2017-05-12 06:30:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad to hear it wasn't one of the frightening neurological diagnoses. At least this you can get better from if you rest.

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Neelai [2017-05-12 06:26:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh no. So sorry to hear what happened to you. Yes breaks are more important that we know. I don't know much about the cintiq you use. Is it one of those where you look at the cintiq while working instead of looking at the computer monitor? 
Take all the time you need to get better. Recovery takes time so be careful not to get back full speed when you start up again. 

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Twin-Sanity [2017-05-12 06:21:35 +0000 UTC]

...right when I thought I draw at the computer too much D8>

Thank you for sharing, dear! I wish I could help you somehow(( Maybe when my financial situation will get better I could help you on Patreon. Untill then please, take a good care of yourself! Hope you'll get better soon!

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Eineko [2017-05-12 06:06:13 +0000 UTC]

That's really scary! This is really important, I will try not to work for more than 2 hours without taking a break. Honestly my back also really hurts and I get a headache if I stare at the computer for too many hours!

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Enomotarch [2017-05-12 05:50:57 +0000 UTC]

Holy crap, this is huge! Thank you for taking the time, and selflessness to open up about this! I will fav this, not only to make it more likely others will see it, but so I will see it whenever I look through my references. As a artist with high intensity motivation, and drive, I realize this type of thing can be overlooked until it is too late. You may have actually saved me, and others with this. Thank you again.

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Raccoon-Art [2017-05-12 05:38:40 +0000 UTC]

Damn! Get better soon and yes..... to everyone.... take fu**** breaks! 

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dinmoney [2017-05-12 05:26:58 +0000 UTC]

Yikes, take care. You probably already heard this, but better safe then sorry. SOme things I do to help is drawing on neutral coloured canvas, inverting the screen when there is lots of white, and using break time software to schedule stretch breaks.
Best of luck, and hope you get well soon. cheers!

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