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LilayM — Thief: Did you miss me?
Published: 2013-09-20 22:05:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 5190; Favourites: 138; Downloads: 6
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Soooo... yeah. Nobody knows coz I never finished a thing from the Thief, but I am a great fan of Garret the series. I watched the trailer and I'm extremely saddened... I mean, I knew they'd butcher the game, but a fool can hope. What's sad is that despite being awfully similiar to the Garret I know, the new Garret ain't even on the same level. All the shit he's saying in the trailer... it's what's considered "cool" these days, not what Garret would say. I'm real touchy about that, you know. And the cape ohmygod why the useless cape but it's awesome so I forgive.Rant and expectations aside, I couldn't have my heart not flutter when I heard he's coming back. And this "did you miss me?" ahdgfhkgfsdg OF COURSE I DID!
By the way, you DO realize he's sporting a corset? XD That gotta be the best man-pulling-off-a-corset I've ever seen. Corsets really are the best lingerie
(XDD)I can honestly say I drew an amazing Thief and my life is complete. I can die peacefully now.
Why is a first Thief fanart I ever finish a Thiefporn? Daaaaaaamn.
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LOVELY comic ! that was my reaction too.... but...
holy shit Garrett in the 1-3 Thief games is a god. His character, his voice, his lines. Everything he says is frigging quotable! The heists he pulls off, his sarcasm his audacity, everything. His voice and his sexiness.
Now this NuGarrett is not the same person at all. And the things he says are indeed cringeworthy also in the game.
"there is a trap door" No shit Garrett, really? I can see it too, can you believe it?
Also... "it's not how much you steal but what and how you steal it " and proceeds to steal milions of spoons and table knives. Also this.. I AM THE NIGHT attitute, what, Garrett are you Batman now?
Sorry! a wild rant appeared!
But yeah I still miss him, cause this Garrett wasn't exactly the Garrett I miss
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Thank you! : )
I agree that 1-3 games were gold (tbh I only got to play 3 and a little bit of 1, but I treat 'em as a whole anyway xD). I have less problems with new Garret than I have with the new world presented and Erin. One, they took away this amazing ambience of pagans and the metal god. Two - I mean, come on - ERIN. Seriously, it's beyond me why Garrett would even associate with her at all.
As for Garrett's lines tho... I blame the modern game tendency to treat players as if they were stupid and spell everything out. With the line "how you steal it", I actually thought it was in-character. It's just us as players who tend to go for any loot aviable xD
I knoooowww.
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Oh do not get me started on ERIN! *shakes fist*
Original Garrett, he wouldn't even GET into this Erin situation he'd be like "screw this I'm out of here"!
Agreed, there is no atmosphere in the nuThief, no lore nothing that I found as fascinating as with the original games ( notice I try to avoid saying OLD games cause it doesn't sound good 
As for original Garrett - he did not steal for the thrill, he stole because it was the only thing he was good at AND the rent was due (always). And he certainly would NOT keep the stuff he stole in his room. That's just frigging daft
And I really really miss G's voice 
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Exactly! I mean, he DID get into the situation with Erin at the end of Deadly Shadows buuut the way she was developed in Thief IV makes me cringe. (He wouldn't let her grow up this way : I) And the whole primal thing with heh... ugh. And the weird creatures... seriously, zombies made more sense.
Hahaha, right! Damn, it's been so long since I played. Honestly tho, I'd believe the whole steal-for-the-thrill coz everyone needs something more than mere money. With not keeping all that stolen stuff... true, but da game developers' bible says thoe needst collectibles.
You don't have to remind me... the voice, AND the sense of humor. Seriously, I almost died at his "Oh, so this is the famous Garrett. I thought he'd be taller." lines XD
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Again, agreed about Erin and Garrett. Also the girl at the end of TDS may too be a totally different person
And yeah that line was awesome. But if you play the previous games oh man it gets even better! I just love Garrett's comments and his narration. Best game character ever. (Thief4 not included lol)
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Yeeea. Coz, like, the Garrett in Thief IV is, but isn't the Garrett from the original series, right? I mean, even the city's different. So Erin is kinda, alluded, but not.
Hahaha I gotta! Got me some spoilers, playing TDS first n all, but I hear the stories in the first two games are just as cool! With the eye and the builder and pagans n everything. Geee, Garrett's voice alone could make a game awesome xD
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Yes, that's right. I believe the NuGarrett has no ties with our original one. The Garrett in Thief4 is called Garrett because otherwise peeps would not wanna buy the game!
Oh yes the stories and the ambiance and dialogue in the 1-2 games are indeed masterfully done. Plus you have the stylish hand drawn cutscenes that Garrett narrates (much better imo than in TDS). Also, I have a top 20 of Garrett's lines in my head 
I would quote but I don't want to spoil anything!
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I don't know what it is with this sudden popularity of revamps. In 100% they make stuff worse. Tomb Raider, Devil May Cry, Thief... seriously, people, seriously.
And that's the worst, yanno? I mean, at least the others make it clear whether it belongs to one canon or not. Thief IV pretends to be the same game.... but not be the same game? I mean, they keep the eye but get rid of the reason and come up with some new weird origin story. Feels like Spider Man or something - why reinvent stuff that's already been invented, eh?
Haha, yeeeah, I gotta get back to playing those (when I have time :c). Tbh I only stopped coz the sound didn't work. I assure you, Amnesia has NOTHING on thief w/o sound. Turning around to find a guard who's been attacking you for the last 10 seconds... yiiish! It's like finding something in the dark is watching you when you're suppossed to be the one watching.
Thanks for not spoiling! : )
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Haha yeah!Why reinvent stuff that's already been invented ....
Well, they didn't really invent anything IN RETURN for taking away the lore and atmosphere. All they did was add gloom and revolution themes *cough* Dishonored *cough*. Sooooooo...
LOL about no sound in Thief!
And I just got Thief Gold to work on my computer on Windows 7 everything is working perfectly well. TTLG forum patch fix does it all for you (it's a sticky thread so it's easy to find).
OMG I started talking about Thief there is NO stopping me now!
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Yeeeah. The plague/dying city is a common theme these days. I'd say it worked for Dishonored tho. For Thief... not so much. The whole Primal thing... meh. Gimme good ol pagans any day.
Yeeeah, I was kinda lazy about getting the patch (when I finally determined that the sound was, indeed, not working right. I mean, it's an old game - I wasn't sure if there was supposed to be one. Garrett's voice remained so that kept me confused xD). The whole reinstalling the game n stuff... also, other stuff to do, yadda yadda. And the fact that I reached the level where I'm anticipating zombies. I'm a big weenie for dark, scary and monsters (the orphanage in TDS... GOD. they did a good job with that in nuThief, too. scaring the shit outta me I mean), so yeah, not looking forward to that.
Muhahhahahh XD Well, it's nice to find somebody who appreciates this series. Many people can't get through bad graphics n all. I had high hopes for the new one bringing the series back but meh, it just ain't the same. I know, easy to criticize but still.
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Got the games from Steam, plus the Thief fix patch is really easy to install. But yeah! I do understand cause I wasn't able to get back to the old games for a long time because of various reasons. One of them being the fact that I did finish TDP like...10 times? lol
But all Thief 4 did was made me install the games and you know, I played Thief 4 on expert then I went on to TDP on expert too. The change of difficulty from game to game is brutal
And anyway, zombies, I KNOW. I am now at the beginning of 2nd mission and I cannot make myself go past the zombies. They're just SO repulsive... don't know any other game which made me scared of the zombies so much. (still scary after so many replays!)
Not to mention that there's a giant spider here too and it wants to eat my face. It's so scary but SO much fun.
I'm just taking TDP as an example but TMA is loads of fun as well (tho arguably not as scary, even tho I am scared of the huge robots.)
And there is TDS with the Cradle...I literally locked myself in the Cradle kitchen and said I was not budging from there.
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Yeea, I have physical copies. I'm pretty sure I can add them on steam tho.
Ha, I ain't the one playing the games on the highest difficulties, can't say about that much. I rather like the style judgement it gave you at the end of the mission xD Mine had absolutely no pattern other than being unpredictable.
There's something utterly wrong about trying to hide from the monsters when you're the one who's supposed to be the hunter. Coz if ya have to like, kill em all, that's not as bad. But thief is pretty good with not letting you simply kill them all off. Or at least, TDS was.
Ahahhahaah yes, the "I'm not gonna move" technique. Have you ever played Penumbra? Or Amnesia, for that matter. That's my favorite strategy for these games xD Never beat'em that way though. I wonder why...
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you know, in the original games I mean Thief 1 and 2, I felt it was rather pointless to actually combat the monsters if they were not faster than me. I mean you can go past zombies as they are slow - even tho it's nerve wracking to do so. I rarely ever even battled the monsters. There were a few exceptions when I wanted to thin down the zombie army because I didn't want them catching me in a doorway. And sometimes I did sneak past the supernatural creatures because I couldn't bring myself to fight them (coward!)
I know Amnesia a little... because you know, of the best tactic of "Im not going there"
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It would be too nerve-wrecking to try and outrun the monsters for me. Coz like, you gotta be moving constantly, and fast, and you don't have time to scout your surroundings properly. Sneaking past is more acceptable. And running fast in case anything goes wrong xD As for killing, I'm talking mostly about TDS. Some of these times you just gotta use those fire arrows or holy water. Especially when the zombies sprawn right under you.
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well it all depends on the game, TDP and TDS have a bit different approaches to monsters in general. Survival horror games are a bit different too, so as long as your approach benefits you it's all okay.
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I think it's like a tactical utility corset or something. Solid Snake in MGS2 had one as well. Krauzer (spelling) of Resident Evil!~..... 4? I think 4. The one with Leon, had one as well.
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Weeeelll the originals were flawed....very flawed. Thief Gold was an experiment where all the levels were mostly art levels before functionality was put in (and it shows because the levels are horribly designed *cough* Thieves Guild *cough*) .
Metal Age had better level design but overall was a boring game (boring as in it didn't really offer much in terms of moving forward. They took all that worked in DP and then just left it at that...add something else). Also the City was too clean looking....I guess Karras also made street cleaning robots. Frog eggs and Scouting orbs...pretty much useless...and how did the scouting orb connect to G's eye? Wireless? So they should have internet. Story wasn't too bad but yeah....was ok.
Thief Deadly Shadows is really underrated. I respect that they attempted to try new things in an effort to drive the series forward. That and the story was well done...probably the best story in the series so far. Gamall was a pretty good villain as well...just a crazy keeper.
all three have acceptable voice acting (with the exception of Russell). Everyone was either whiny, bland, or just didn't care. Listened to it enough to be sick of it.
Thief 2014 - I finished this game and played it to death and you know what? It's a worthy entry. The little tidbits and references are really nice and it is the same universe which makes it interesting (spoiler: it takes place several years in the future). Yes it too is flawed (sound mixing, needs a better map) but overall it's an enjoyable game. I hope they make more. (The primal is what powered the Keeper Glyphs of old...or rather the primal drew power from them). Romano Orizari is great as Garrett and I liked his performance better then Russell's job in Deadly Shadows. Oh yeah I went there. Just deadly shadows though....my fav Russell Garrett is Thief 2.
Those are my two cents.
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Sadly, I can't speak much of the first two games since I had technical problems preventing me from playing them. Only recently did I solve those, alas, I have finals coming my way and every bit of time spared is welcome. I got to play only the first level of Thief Gold and all of Deadly Shadows. Suffice to say, the last game earned my eternal love for the whole franchise.
As for the voice acting, I loved Russel's work. Thief game without him isn't really a Thief game T_T Rarely does a voice actor have such a huge impact on my perceiving the character, but Russel's voice practically MADE Garrett who he was.
I can't wait to play the newest game. As for the "spoiler" - hey, those who played Thief III could gather as much from the trailers xP Girl shows on the age. The whole amnesia tho... I'm so sick of it, games tend to overuse it nowadays. Tho it might really make sense in the game, I don't know.
Thanks for putting those two cents in! : )
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That's a shame you were/are having issues getting the originals to work.
Having the right voice does help in terms of the character, but considering both actors did great jobs I tend to look more on the development of the character instead.
The original thief has Garrett on a character roller coaster which does work. But people either forget (or don't want to acknowledge it) that at the end of Deadly Shadows, Garrett fully accepts who he is...The True Keeper. He spent the entire series denying destiny and avoiding human contact. He learned to co operate with others (much to his dislike) but at that moment he knew he couldn't stay hidden. Him smiling at the end is a great note to end on.
The Garrett in Thief 2014, doesn't really have amnesia. You'll find out 
Also if they had Russell in this game I don't think the story wouldn't make much sense and would confuse the crap out of people. Again you'll see. No he's not a reincarnation or a decendant...at least not that we know.
It is kinda nice to discuss things with other fans
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Who, whoooa. It... makes sense? Now I'm intrigued. Can't wait to get my finals outta the way and play the hell out of this game. Daaamn, why do they have to be so far away? On the other hand, it's good to have time to learn something before I take those ^^"
Yeah, it is. Such a shame I can't play this game right now but I really can't afford any more distractions than I already have. I hope we'll get to talk when I finally do : ) Definitely gonna fangasm over it, so it will show in my gallery when I've played it xP
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I am so goddamn butthurt about the new Thief game. Don't think I've ever seen a finer example of butchering a series for mainstream appeal.
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Oh my, I'm waiting for the new Thief too... In the meantime I found the old parts of the story and I'm going through T3 again - OMD, forgot how awesome it is...
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Yes! Actually I've only played T3 in full, had technical problems with the others and haven't had time to complete them yet. Still, I love Deadly Shadows so much! Graphics were simple yet amazing in that old-game way, still awesome enough to enhance the gameplay. And VOICES, most of all voices. Especially Garret's but others', too.
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Yup, that's true - the graphics was poor (for today standards), but... who really care about graphics in that game?
And Garret's voice is really... fitting. I loved Lauryl too. And the Eye... And Pagans' weird speech... and... well, even stupid guards were well-voiced.
But the climate was the best - in the Cradle I got scared by my own shadow twice (true story) and after that I was crouching several minutes behind a wall when I first met a Puppet... God, that was... chilling... all this trembling... it looked like the creature was still tortured, even in undeath... After that part even running around with the Witch was a child play...
Btw - why do we speak English? xD
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I kinda go by different standard for old games, I can forgive them more - but there are old games' graphics, and then there are too old games' graphics. So I can't really say those were terrible - for me they're simple but charming : ) (1st game tho... those count as terrible XD)
Oh god, I don't even wanna remember the Cradle. Shit, that game gave me the creeps with a mere glimpse of supernatural creatures. Like, they were only rumoured to exist at first... And then you have it. Because of that now when I'm playing the first game, I'm shitting my pants before the zombies even showed up. IF they show up.
Eeeer... coz I speak English by default? xD On dA I keep assuming everyone can more or less speak english, so I go by that language.
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A tak tylko pytam o język, bo mamy analogiczne obywatelstwo ustawione w profilach
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No teoretycznie można konwersować w dowolnym, zwyczaj mam jednak taki, że odpowiadam w języku, w którym do mnie napisano xP Chociaż natrafiłam na jedną rosjankę, która nie stosowała tej zasady.
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Ano zasada dobra - przynajmniej daje duże szanse na to, że obie strony znają ten sam język. No i też odruchowo wypaliłam z angielskim, dopiero ostatnio popatrzyłam na profil xD
To fajnie, że mamy sporo polskich artystów - co i raz kogoś z "naszych" spotykam.
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No. Jak dla mnie to niesamowite, bo nie tylko przez kluby i przez znajomych na polaków trafiam. I całkiem nieźle im się powodzi xP Pomijając anglojęzyczną większość i ruskich, to chyba reprezentacja Polski jest najszersza. Niby trochę jeszcze hiszpańskojęzycznych jest, sporo francuzów i garstka niemców. No i włosi. A przynajmniej te nacje się jeszcze nie dostosowały językowo i afiszują się własnym xP Nie krytykując oczywiście, ale czasem chciałabym móc zrozumieć, co tam pisze. Na szczęście umiem trochę cyrylicę, więc da się sens załapać. Z w/w to tylko francuskiego ani be ani me. Włoski niemalże jak hiszpański xP W sumie francuski też z tej rodziny, ale dużo inny.
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lovely comic 
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The creators did say he has a feminine side (not saying he is weak or anything). Which would make sense, since he loves to steal jewels, art, etc.
They said this in a podcast (not sure you listen to them but here is the link just in case. community.eidosmontreal.com/ Stealing Time Thief podcast Episode 2 )
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If I were a thief I'd much rather steal jewels and art than other, heavier valuables. And his feminine side has nothing to do with the way he, let's put this like this - perceives the world. It's all about the elegance and efficiency of movement. Let's not put there things that ain't there, shall we?
But dang, he's still a man sporting a corset. Most delightfully, I daresay...
Meh, anyone tries to call feminine weak to my face, I shall have my delicate feminine fingers elegantly connect with their face, leaving a lovely round mark in all the pretty shades of purple. (sorry. pet peeve)
And thanks a bunch for linking that podcast, it was most enlightening! Kinda long at times but definitely worth it.
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I meant that line to be a joke, but it is my fault for not hinting that, sorry >-< . Glad you enjoyed the podcasts and you are very most welcome.
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AHhaah, sorry then! It's hard to sense irony in a bunch of letters. Tone of a voice and body language usually makes it easier to recognize xP
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Awww it is ok. Like I said, my fault. Yeah, it is easier to recognize a joke from tone/body language than on a computer. As for that , you deserve to imagine Garrett wearing nothing but his "Man-set" (god would I love to see that )
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I know what you mean, but I look at it like this is a new retelling of the franchise (although, fans of the original series may disagree). I adore the first three, and I am looking forward to this one, even though many things have changed (like the voice actor D: ), I will purchase it and rave like a fangirl once again.
I do like that you pointed out he is wearing a corset; no one else can pull off a corset like Garrett (no pun intended).
As for the cape thingy, as it was stated in Disney's The Incredibles, no capes on superheroes!!! Thieves, go ahead!
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Draw Haythem >:I he is like... ONE of da best characters in ACIII
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I know what you mean, I feel the same way...
Although I kinda disagree on the cape... he always wore a cloak in the artworks for the first two games and in the cutscenes too, so I always imagine him with a cloak/cape thing...
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Dang it, you're right! I completely forgot that xD Heh, I still think capes are impractical though, for those who could get entangled in them or accidentaly have it make a noise (you know where your body is, but you have no idea where the cloak goes so it could eg. sweep a vase off its place et.) at least.
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Yes, they sure are impractical... but they look cool XD
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I completely support you. Garret. I do miss the original Garret though (him and his voice). I keep replaying the old games to keep it alive. The new one is just...bleh, from what I've seen. I still have hope!
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Yeah, hope's all that's left. Though honestly, I'm already thinking of Thief IV as of different series altogether. Different character, even if named the same. I'll try to anjoy the game as just a stealth game, not a continuation of the series.
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That's the way, all of us will eventually see it. Sometimes I wish they'd just created a new game around it, but I wouldn't have known about it if it was. So I guess it's a good thing they didn't!
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